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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby Tuckerfan1053 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:28 pm

Prototype wrote:I've heard about this particular convertible before. Why has it never been spoken of before if in fact it is a "real" secret Tucker pet project. I smell something....but not sure what it is! Maybe that's why the top has been cut off, to aleviate a certain smell....?

The Big Three had everyone involved in the project secretly killed and stashed the car in the warehouse where they keep the Ark of the Covenant, which is right next to the soundstage where the Apollo landings were filmed. Nicolas Cage drove the car out of there as he made his escape with the Declaration of Independence. ;)
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby Preston » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:34 pm

This is just a car that could have be completed as the real deal but has now been modified (ruined the doors) to
make something that won't be worth having.. unless someone has enough money to buy it, take it apart and finish
a real Tucker...
Just tell the truth... “We have a Tucker that was left on the line when the plant closed and was never finished”...
Man with all those parts and engine.... I would think it would do well as it was before modifying the doors.
The Tucker on the Mercury frame needs this... Or Richardo or SuperFleye
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby tin goose » Sat Feb 07, 2009 1:13 am

listen guys, this has been debated to death, but it is the real deal. I have seen this car a couple of times and have scoured everything they have. I have had the honor to ask an infinite amount of questions, see the 10 gauge frame, see the extended doors (all of which was NOT done at Benchmark). You would all be blown away by the amount of original material they have - as well as documentation of the car. This was a secret project. Although I am a little disappointed to see it on the 'bay, Justin and everyone at Benchmark are the best in the Midwest at what they do. I, nor no one else will ever change the minds of some you naysayers, but you have to give credit that this was a vision of Preston's and should be completed - I guarantee that you will be pleased and impressed with the final outcome. Watching this build first hand has honestly been one of the highlights of my life....
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby TUCKER » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:58 am

Hi, the back section was from Tucker 1055 which had the windshield section cut off when shipped by original owner after being sold like told by buyer. Also if you look for older fhotos on this site you will see that frame is long and the gup between the doors and quarter panels is too big. The top of the car is off a 1942 or 46 Cadillac if I remember.
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby tin goose » Sat Feb 07, 2009 3:44 am

the place you speak of is Lencki Engineering. Yes, there was quite a gap between the doors and the rear clip, but they have filled it. that part of the body was never completed. I can not say for sure where the rear body panels came from, but I do know what number the front fenders are from - the hood and cowl are stamped #57. I believe the roof tracks are from a Buick - much like many of the tucker designs/dimensions.
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby john » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:18 pm

Tin Goose,
I have a very legitamate question for you.

Please respond;
WHO ISSUED THE NUMBER 1057 on the car, you say that it has 57 stamped on it, where did 1057 come from?
I am sure that many club members and others would like to know.
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby leadleader » Sat Feb 07, 2009 7:36 pm

Preston wrote:Too bad... Pair that up with the pile of parts with #27 and you could have 2 REAL Tuckers... I think it's a waste to build a fantacy car...
There are probably enough parts out there to complete that #57 as a real Tucker.

Preston wrote:This is just a car that could have be completed as the real deal but has now been modified (ruined the doors) to
make something that won't be worth having.. unless someone has enough money to buy it, take it apart and finish
a real Tucker...
Just tell the truth... “We have a Tucker that was left on the line when the plant closed and was never finished”...
Man with all those parts and engine.... I would think it would do well as it was before modifying the doors.
The Tucker on the Mercury frame needs this... Or Richardo or SuperFleye


Preston- Why do you seem to dislike this car? It is not a waste to build a fantasy car because any other use of the parts off of this car would have most likely been deemed similarly illegitimate. A tucker 1057 would never be considered a "real" Tucker. Look at Tucker "1051" which was built up in a certain way similiar to what you describe. The description on this website states: "Notes: Tucker 1051 was not completed at the Tucker factory, so it is not technically considered one of the original 51 cars (Tin Goose + 50). The car was purchased at the Tucker auction in an incomplete state, and was finished in the late 1980's using leftover Tucker parts." Even if this car is a figment it is something very special that should be encouraged and enjoyed in the future.

The fact sheet on the seller's website makes a very good point that a convertible was a logical next step. Considering that according to Mr. Egan's book half of the original clay mockup was converted into a "1950" model shows that the company was thinking into the future. Honestly, for sake of the company at the time it would be more logical to create a prototype to capture the imagination of the American public in a grand and inexpensive fashion. Thus, the modification of an existing car would make the most sense. What we have seen with the release of the Life photos of the wrap around car proves Tucker was considering alterations to the car. In your opinion which car would seem the greater progression from the original design: a modified back window, or a convertible? Which would cause further capital to come into the company? Whether or not there is proof of this being the "real thing" it is highly likely it could be. The natural progression of design, and the marketing genius of those in the company only ads to the credibility of this car.

I only hope that it gets the completion it deserves, gets used or shared with the world, and is finally accepted as being a Tucker.
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby Preston » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:37 pm

Leadleader... It's not that I'm against this car.... In my opinion I think it's waste to make something that didn't
exist when you could make something that does/did...
If Tuckers where setting on every corner.... and a convertible never made it to production sure why not...
or why not make a 2 door model.... (I would prefer that over the convertible.) This convertible is made up of parts that were rusted and damaged, pieced together over the past few decades with a “story” that it was top secret... (the back is off #55 that was pretty rusty.).. it wasn't in some secret location.... That's what bothers me the most...
But I have no doubt it'll be killer looking when she rolls out... definantly something to see.
But to think it could roll out like it should have 60+ years ago... that's what I would like to see and would mean more to me.
It's just a matter of personal preference....

And really.... All this ... ALL this is personal preference.... We're talking about a awesome car that didn't make it...
we all come here everyday (or almost) to see what's new about a car we all enjoy... Richardo building one out of other cars
Superfleye taking a movie kit car to a higher level... Those are the two I'm watching and waiting to see unveiled more that this car....

And as far as #51 and others... I personally think it's crazy that #51 isn't considered one of the Real Tuckers... Who can make that judgement and why? Because it wasn't assembled in a closed down plant?... big deal...
Bet it would bring as much as any of the others...
Were all the other 50 that are considered real... drive off the line ready when the plant closed? That I don't know....
But I think #51 was bought in a pile and never assembled... until the 80s.... But come on... it's A Tucker....

Some say that if #27 was restored it wouldn't be an original Tucker? How crazy is that... or the one on the Mercury frame... if it was restored on an orignal frame or new frame that it's no longer a orignal Tucker.. that's crazy too... just because it's not the original frame or original parts... and numbers don't match... How many restored cars out there have new parts?
But again ...personal preference... real, not real, top secret convertible or a completed car long after the plant and Preston were gone... Doesn't really matter.... We all have opinions and life is too short to soap box on something petty like a
pieced together car... I'm saying, to me, it's a shame to waste all those parts, engine and pieces to make up a fantacy car when they have the chance to make just ONE more.
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby Randy Earle » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:44 pm

Mr. Tucker was guilty more than once of being covert and doing things on the QT, and because of this I don't have a problem believing this car could have been commissioned by Mr. Tucker. In some of the photos I've seen of the Tucker Plant I can see why Mr. Tucker would want to keep a future project away from prying eyes. I don't have a problem with any of this What does bother me is the way the people that are restoring the car put it up for sale on Evilbay before it's finished and the way it smacks of greed. It seems awfully tawdry to me.
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby John Dore » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:21 am

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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby Larry Clark » Wed Feb 11, 2009 9:08 pm

John- I think you make a very strong case why the Tucker convertible, whatever it is or was, will ultimately be good for our common goal of sustaining the legend of the Tucker car. One of my favorite other cars is the Continental Mark II. There are several convertible even though Ford Motor Company never produced one for the marketplace (at least one was made for Ford for William Ford, Senior). These convertibles are beautiful cars and elegantly show off the wonderful lines of the 1956 and 1057 Continentals. The "Tucker convertible" looks like it will do the same for the Tucker '48. I will join you in standing in line to see it (even while not believing it is "real").

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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby Tuckerfan1053 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:28 pm

Well, the auction's over and the reserve wasn't met. Wonder what's going to happen next?
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby John Dore » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:30 am

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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby SuperFleye » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:31 am

Yeah, I also think it smelled like a cheap marketing stunt!
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Re: Tucker Convertible on Ebay

Postby tin goose » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:50 am

I would not say it was a "cheap marketing stunt"

Cheap? YES. they got a lot of interest and traffic for the small fee that it cost to post the auction.

Although I was surprised, and don't think I would have done it myself, I understand why Justin posted it. They did not think it would have sold (they may have actually panicked if it had).

If you knew how much interest that auction generated across the nation you would have posted it too....
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