by john » Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:38 am
We do hope it was Ok with everyone in moving the "how do I post a picture" post to this Mystery Picture Post.
We have been fortunate in gaining a few Historians thoughts, original drawings, other persons thoughts and other papers for our writtings, special thanks to you guys and gals!
The Drawing Room Picture;
We do agree with MD & John K that it appears to be Alex sitting at the drawing table measuring the clay model.
It sure would be nice to see what Tucker styles were being drawn and rendered by these gentlemen working together at this table.
The different renderings the team of designers are working on appear to be rather large in size.
Are there any original renderings that Club members have that are large in nature, it is our understanding that some do exist?
If so, maybe the one you have is one of the renderings the designers are working on in this picture?
We are unsure, but it looks like Preston Tucker in the back of the room talking with two gentlemen with hats on, does anybody have any thoughts if this is Tucker?
We are unsure about who else is at the table or where this photograph was taken, perhaps someone else can help identify who these other people are?
Through some research, we were able to gain bitts of what we feel is reliable information that may shed some light though.
We were informed that this Drawing room site pictured was not at the Tucker Corporation facilities.
It is thought that the site in the picture is from an off Tucker site location that designed for Tucker, possibly the firms of Tammen & Dennison, Barnes & Reinecke or Lippincott.
Hopefully, someone else can assist in the identities.
John K, we are truly unsure if the Tucker mural/rendering is of the Talisman, it may be a rendering of the Tucker that was used, in part, to render the final rendering of the Tucker for production as we know it? Perhaps someone can assist us here?
Did all the above pictured in the drawing room scene produce the final renderings of the production Tucker as we know it? Hopefully someone can assist and answer this question?
The wall mural looks like it may have carried over the small Tatra-esque fin down the center like the Original rendering done by Lawson whom Tucker had commissioned, any thoughts or opinions?
The clay model Alex is measuring together with another person may be another future prototype or it may be the clay model that they used in fashion for the final designs of the Tucker as we know it, would like to hear everybody’s thoughts?
We are unsure, but it seems possible that the roofline, fenders and glass of these two cars in this picture may have blended into what has been referred to as the (49?), which apparently had a large back window and fender treatments together with other special modifications?
We presume that it would have stood out, quite strikingly, from all other Tuckers?
Would like to hear everybody’s thoughts and opinions?
Is it possible that this is what some refer to as the Talisman; we have been led to believe that the Talisman, in design, was supposed to be a 2 door though?
Would like to hear everybody’s thoughts & opinions?
As a side note and good reading for Tucker enthusiasts, we found many published stories about Audrey Moore Hodges that bring forth fabulous stories about her time at the Tucker Corporation while working in design.
We will end here for right now in hopes that others can assist and post thoughts and opinions before we continue.
The Mystery Tucker picture:
This picture is aged just as the other one.
It’s neat that TuckerCar & MD posted a few thoughts on this picture, thanks guys!
Good guess Tucker Car, but we believe the car pictured is not 1027 that Dick Kughn owned at one time.
In furthering, did Dick also have 1052 at one time and did car 1052 or 1055 turn into cars of controversy & mystery for awhile?
Just stories we heard and read about that we are passing on for others thoughts and opinions.
Dick Kughn did fascinate us in our research.
We assume, as we were told, he owned the Lionel Train Corporation at one time and he worked with Ford, Chrysler and GM in construction of plants.
We were told that Neil Young later purchased the Lionel Train Corporation, any truth to any of this?
To our best knowledge, as we were told, Dick owned a Building old timers referred to as the old Hudson bldg? We were told it was a multi level hi rise type bldg that housed antiques, huge train Layouts, toys, automobiles and many other objects of curiosity on different floors.
We are curious as to something else we were told in our research, did Dick have, in a crate, the engine that was in the middle/transitional time of the 589 & 335 engines and did Dick also have the original molds for the dash parts of the Tucker?
Perhaps someone can clarify this in thought and opinion as it was passed to us as hearsay.
The chassis and parts picture brought this question into our minds, was it Joseph Lencki’s Race, Engineering and Fabrication shop that built the first chassis’s for the Tucker factory to use as template’s for the fabrication of the standard production Tucker chassis on the Tucker assembly line? Perhaps someone can post a reply on this.
In reading what has been written, it seems that Joseph Lencki, Ford, Tucker, Harry Miller and the Rigling Brothers all raced or were involved at Indy with one another in different fashions, does anyone know just how deep their friendships and business ties were?
Is it true that Lencki and the Rigling Brothers had roles in the building of the famous Tin Goose?
One other little piece that may help in identifying the Mystery Tucker pictured, it seems that it was kept a very short distance from the Chicago Tucker plant for many many years.
Your posts and replies may greatly assist all in identifying the Mystery Tucker pictured, please study the picture carefully, maybe the old adage is true, “ a picture is worth a Thousand words”?
In closing our post about the Mystery Tucker at this time:
We do have hopes that Tucker authorities, Historical authorities and enthusiasts can join together in identifying the serial number of the Mystery Tucker pictured above.
These two newly discovered pictures together with other newly discovered items are offered in good faith to solve mysteries; they are not posted to create controversy in any manner whatsoever.
Everyone’s thoughts and opinions, in a graceful and courteous manner, might just solve and put to rest the Mysteries and Histories of two or three Tuckers.
We look forward to reading everyone’s posts and replies!
Respectfully submitted,
John[/quote]
