Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

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Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:39 am

This is not 1027 but they call it 1027. Why? I don't know why if I can't see it and it is diferent in many ways from all other Tuckers. At first sight it may look like any other Tucker but look closely. This car was also together with the 1057 Tucker at one time and it go together with the story since 1027 that this car used to be is not here anymore and it is now the 1057. They even tell you where the 1027 car is in this car and they also say they have blueprints to make a convertible Tucker. See photos and lets hear what everyone see in this photos.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 1:47 am

after you have fun you will find out something else about this 1027 1018 1052 Tuckers you will learn there is another car that is not here but somewhere in Santas Toy Shop. You will find part of it in another photo I will post at the end after we are done with this first set of photos.

Also I know John don't like to see this car as you have seen in the posts by him but also remember 1057 was 1027 at the end! Also this car that is under 1027 always told us where 1027 was and it was not a secret. But now this new can of worms give you another clue to the real 1057 and another car from the books.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby Tommy » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:00 am

I don’t know how I missed this the first time a saw this article but it says Mr.Kughn had a set of Tucker blueprints for a convertible and had the drawing made from them. It doesn’t actually say the blueprints sold with the lot though. These would be very interesting to see. Maybe the buyers of the lot could shed some light on that.

I’m not sure why Tin Goose just said the front pieces of the convertible were from #1018 when they were in this lot when it sold. I think it was shown by TUCKER that without a doubt that the right front fender was from #1027 when Mr.Reinert owned it. There is damage in 3 spots that match up exactly to the damage from #1027 on Mr.Reinerts fender. TUCKER showed us 2 and the other is right by the headlight bezel. The fender on the car now looks like it never was damaged. Did Benchmark buy #1018s front clip from Historic Auto Attractions (the buyer of the lot)? Tin Goose could you clarify this?
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:08 am

the car at Benchmark still have the same front clip of 1027. This is another car you are looking at now. Please read the photo of the black page again and the question is "what can you find on this other car?"

come on everyone, lets see what you can find in this other easter egg. There is another part of the mystery to solve for 1057. This is a diferent easter egg not the old blue egg from last time.

There are 6 cars all mixed in the mystery as many easter eggs and most parts and most panels are still around to find as easter eggs. 1018-1027-1051-1054-1055-1057. So come on and lets find all the easter eggs and we will find the one and only golden egg 1057 with the big back window.

remember that the convertible have:
1-frame from 1027
2-back fenders from 1027
3-front fenders from 1027
3-hood from 1027(?)
4-back body section from 1055
5-coul(?)
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby Randy Earle » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:22 am

The drawing of the convertible is on the passenger side front door.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:27 am

the drawing is there because it is part of the puzle of the mystery eggs. Just another clue that it is part of the easter eggs and we must solve them all to find the golden egg.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:33 am

maybe we can start by you all posting what you see in this car from 1027 in this parts lot
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby tractiondk » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:39 am

First I would like to say thanks to the people who are contributing to these threads about "1057", "1052", 1027 and 1018. It has been very interesting to read.

I have a few comments to the subjects.

It looks like that the right backdoor from the 1052 lot, comes from 1027. It has a little damage on the top, and the color looks like the one seen on the pictures of 1027.

TUCKER said it, and I totally agree..... the 1057-convertible project would be much more interesting if it was used to recreate 1027, and I'm sure the value would be higher on this famous Tucker that rolled over while testing ,than on a "never has been convertible".

Is there enough left of 1018 to recreate it? the chassi and the front exists, but what about the rest?

Keep up the good work.

Just my 2 cents

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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:51 am

this Easter eggs are scrambled now since Easter is long gone and you need to put them together again in 2 or 3 lists just by the photos posted under "Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

"Another Mystery hidden car here!"
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby Tommy » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:41 pm

Here is what I see:

1052, 1027, 1018 lot

1. Picture was taken at the auction in 2002.
2. Body from 1027 minus roof which was cut off. (same color and dents)
3. Back right door from 1027. (same color and dents)
4. Unknown front right door. (same color but 1027s was crunched very badly)
5. Unknown front left door. (could be same color, otherwise can not be seen )
6. Rear deck lid from 1027. (same color and bend)
7. Front trunk lid from 1027. (same color, not damaged)
8. Unknown whitewall tires. (1027 had no whitewalls)
9. Rear grill probably from 1027, undamaged.
10. Front fenders from 1018.
11. Front bumper from 1018.
12. Unknown rear fenders (quarters) Right side looks like it may have the same crease as convertible. Rusty but had primer and/or paint on them at one time. Not bare metal.
13. 2 miss matched seats ( 1027 had miss matched seats)
14. Dash pad
15. Steering wheel without horn ring (steering column assumed)
16. 2 engines ( one looks more used than the other)
17. Extra center section for front bumper,
18. Other unknown body panels on floor between car and rope rail. Could be rocker panels or floor boards etc...
19. Boxes of smaller parts.
20. Larger unknown panel leaning against wall/curtain.
21. Drawing of convertible taped to window. The article says this was made for Mr.Kughn from Tucker blueprints. (Blueprints are not seen)
22. Is known to be the remnants of Mr. Schlipf’s collection bought at Tucker bankruptcy auction.
23. Is stated as sitting on 1052 test frame (not 1027s frame)
24. Is not assembled but just strapped and taped together.



The convertible

1. Back end of 55?
2. Cowl of 57?
3. Front trunk lid of 57?
4. Inner front trunk/trunk latch of 57?
5. Front fenders of 1027 or 1018? (had 1027 right front when Mr.Reinert sold it)
6. Rear fenders of 1027 or unknown same as above?
7. Unknown origin elongated doors?
8. Rocker from 1027?
9. Frame from 1027 or 57?
10. Modified unknown windshield frame.
11. Not Tucker suspension.
12. Engine from?
13. Transmission from?

As a side note 1027’s engine is in Chicks Tucker #51 which is actually Body 54.
I also think I recall Plancor writing that there were 2 Bodies stamped #5. That should scramble your egg, it scrambled mine.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:05 pm

well I see you still don't have the eye for this new egg. It is not hard to find out but all I can tell you is that you can count the parts from 1027 with one hand since all the others are on 1057 convertible. Most of this lot is 2 eggs and easy to find. I know it is hard but I found all the eggs in here and the other mystery cars to continue. Remember there is one main egg on this pile of parts, one you wount even think about at the time.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:35 pm

answers to Tommy's list
1-true
2-body not from 1027(I know)
3-correct the back green door is from 1027
4-front doors are not from 1027 sinceright green door was sold with this lot.
5-yes the two front doors are the same color.
6 yes maybe back trunk is from 1027 but not shure about that.
7-no, front deck lid is not from 1027 and is not the same style!
8-tires are nothing to do with this mystery.
9-no the back grill is not from 1027
10-yes front bumper is from 1018
11-yes back bumper is from 1018
12-yes the back fenders had paint at one time but they are not from 1027. Study the photos more!
13-seats are unknown but not much of a deal with the mystery.
14-? look closely at the dash.
15-nothing to wory about
16-yes 2 engines but nothing to change the story of the eggs
17-yes there were extra bumper sections for the back
18-20 - not much to wory about at this egg
21-clue in the window of Johns blue egg!
22-true
23-yes it is on 1052 test frame!
24-true but not inportant to solve this egg.
"What a big egg! haha"

1-I know it is from 1055 but don't want to share the photos at this time
2-coul is unknown at this time
3-that is not a late model trunk lid!
4-not shure what they came from.
5-not shure of this
6-yes they are both 1027 front fenders.
7-unknown is true
8-rocker is from 1027
9-frame is from 1027!
10-window frame was modified later on, not at the factory!
11-true
12-owner of car got this engine nos in the box and there is a photo of that.
13-also found later by owner.

come on John and Tucker car, don't you want to find the other lost cars from the Tucker story including the golden egg?
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby john » Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:49 am

Tucker,
Dropped you an email this morning.
Have been concentrating on the History of the Harris fwd Streamlined Speciale, PLUS have been in and out of town.

Be patient Tucker, its hard for people to comprehend, just as they were slow to pick up the Blue Easter egg, that importance leads us to what you are documenting,

CLUE, the convertible rendering that was with #57, was not done by Tremulis, do know that the other rendering, as you have posted about, was done much later than the one that sold with #57.
Tatraman, knows which designer rendered this, he is the one that noticed and guessed who drew the rendering that is supposed to be ORIGINAL, unfortunatly, it does not coincide with the dates and or History as told.
POINT; all of this leads to another point, rendered after the plant was closed>>>>>>>

Keep at it Tucker.
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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby john » Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:27 am

Tucker,

Is there a Grand Prize being awarded by TuckerCar ?????

Do I get to play, might I be a stones throw away from where the Hunt takes place Tucker, or might I have to hop a plane and go further East ?

Give a clue to help others Tucker, OK....

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Re: Mystery Car #2 -"the new can of worms that hide secrets"

Postby TUCKER » Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:17 am

Yes John, there is a big price to win by TuckerCar. You will will a trip with the girl of your dreams to Hawaii. Lets hear it from TuckerCar.
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