#1033

[Tucker Fan 48]

I know that Robert Bahre, the owner of the Loudon Speedway in NH is the owner of #1033. I've recently read that he may have owned
a second Tucker in the late 80s or early 90s. Anyone know if this is true and if so, which Tucker? When did he own it? Who did he buy
it from? Who did he sell it to and when?

While I'm at it I should ask some of the same questions about #1033. It was completed around Sept or Oct of 1948 but I don't have an
exact date. It was not used in the movie. It was on the inventory list of 3/3/49 listed with engine # 33515, it was maroon and in
building #4 with no transmission, body #35 and a 940 interior. It had a Y-1 transmission put in it at some point. I know Bahre has had
it for a awhile. What is the history of #1033? Who has owned it? When, Where, etc.? When did Robert Bahre purchase it and from who?

Bahre also has a second engine. Any idea what the serial number is?


Thanks as always !!!!!

Here are a few pictures of this beautiful car.

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[plancor 792]

The only previous owner I have for Tucker 1033 was Paul Znika 6510 Broadway, Gary Indiana. He paid $1900.00 for the car in 1949 and was willing to sell for $40,000.00. It had engine #33532 installed and he also had engine #33515. I have not inspected this Tucker. It has a Cord transmission installed. At the time Znika was selling it the speedometer read 6,200 miles. Sorry that I cannot be specific on the date he sold it. Bob Bahre at one time also owned Tucker 1049. 1049 was previously owned by Dewey Bloomquist, Nick Jenin and Gene Zimmerman. Zimmerman had it posted in his museum in Harrisburg Pa that this was one of only 19 Tuckers built. Zimmerman's "expert" told his this and he happens to be the same "expert" who said the convertible was for real.
Some information is confusing as a factory listing in Oct.6, 1948 said that Tucker 1033 had engine 33598 and a Y-1 serial number 112 ASF installed.
Richrd

[Tucker Fan 48]

Thank you Richard !!! Hope you are doing OK.

[Tucker Fan 48]

Some information is confusing as a factory listing in Oct.6, 1948 said that Tucker 1033 had engine 33598 and a Y-1 serial number 112 ASF installed.

Richard,

You are right about that information being confusing. Your article in Milestone Car in the Spring of 1975 shows #33598 in #1050. I guess I'm more
likely to believe your information. Where is the serial # on the Y-1 transmission located and how many were built?

[Tucker Fan 48]

There was an article about this car and Paul Znika written in the late 50s or early 60s. A copy of it was for sale on
on E-Bay at one time under Item #130319778160. The listing was for "Tucker Car Vintage Paper Lot Ad
Articles 1940s - 1960 for sale". "It's about Tucker car owner Paul Znika of Gary, Indiana. The first photo
shows the car and across the street is a movie theater and drug store".

Sounds like it has at least a couple photos and might tell some history on this car. It has been purged from
E-Bay so it was more than 3 months ago. Does anyone happen to have a PDF of the E-Bay ad or or the article
itself?

[streamliner]

Once again, thanks to Larry Clark's Chronology Project for the following info:

#1033 was completed on September 30, 1948, and immediately sent to Indianapolis.

Also on that date, car #'s 1013, 1017, 1020, and 1023 were rebuilt.

The Indy tests finished on October 5.

On October 8, car #1034 was completed and car #'s 1009 and 1013 were rebulit.

It's very possible that all the info is accurate, as cars were simultaneously being built and rebuilt in that timeframe. It appears that at that time there was a lot of engine and transmission development taking place as well. I would imagine that engine/transmission swaps were pretty routine at this point. From the "automan" LIFE photos, you can see how quickly the exchange takes place. It's the same group watching from start to finish, no one lost interest. It doesn't even happen that quickly at "Jiffy Lube"...

[Tucker Fan 48]

Was #1033 ever tested at Indy? If it was completed on 9/30/48 there would not have been much time for it to be used.

I think I got this from Richard Jones:

"Seven Tuckers were tested at the Indianapolis Speedway between September 16th and October 5th, 1948 according to engineering report #101 by A. Smaardyk dated October 21st, 1948 and signed by A. Smaardyk, E.W. Baustein, W. Rice, H. Tellock, and approved by E. Offutt. The cars tested were #1026, #1027, #1028, #1029, #1030, #1031, and #1032. They were driven a total of 13,134 miles. #1027 crashed and rolled three times. After replacing a tire, #1027 was driven off the track."

There was no mention of #1033 in that group but it could have been there and just not used in the test since it showed up almost at the end.

It appears there was a lot of "transmission development" going on during this time. I've noticed several cars that were completed and tested ended
up with no transmission on the inventory list of 3/3/49. It seems like there were still a few bugs to work out in the Y-1 and the R-3 never got
a chance to be tested.

[Tucker Fan 48]

The only previous owner I have for Tucker 1033 was Paul Znika 6510 Broadway, Gary Indiana. He paid $1900.00 for the car in 1949 and was willing to sell for $40,000.00. It had engine #33532 installed and he also had engine #33515. I have not inspected this Tucker. It has a Cord transmission installed. At the time Znika was selling it the speedometer read 6,200 miles. Sorry that I cannot be specific on the date he sold it. Bob Bahre at one time also owned Tucker 1049. 1049 was previously owned by Dewey Bloomquist, Nick Jenin and Gene Zimmerman. Zimmerman had it posted in his museum in Harrisburg Pa that this was one of only 19 Tuckers built. Zimmerman's "expert" told his this and he happens to be the same "expert" who said the convertible was for real.
Some information is confusing as a factory listing in Oct.6, 1948 said that Tucker 1033 had engine 33598 and a Y-1 serial number 112 ASF installed.
Richard

Now I'm really confused. I found the article below about Paul Znika and his Tucker. It was in the Toledo Blade on October 19th, 1958. It may have
appeared in other newspapers around that time period as well. In the article Znika says he bought the car in the summer of 1957 and it had over
100,000 miles on it at that time. He says he is the fourth owner of the car. The article refers to it as cream colored. There is not a picture of the
left front fender in the article so I'm unable to narrow down the serial number.

Did Znika own more than one Tucker? #1033 was a maroon car but Richard does mention in his 1988 Guide to Colors and Conditions that it was white
at that time. The #400 paint cars were #1008, #1011, #1018, #1028, #1040. The white colored cars on Richards chart in 1988 were #1011, #1030,
#1033, and #1040. Willis Jones owned #1008 from Oct 49 to 1967 so it can be eliminated. Daniel J. Ehlenz owned #1011 in 1950 and supposedly sold
it to David Lares. Lares had the car until 1987 but had it stored from 1959 to 1987. #1011 had over 100,000 miles on it. #1018 hit the tree in August
of 1948 so it can be eliminated. #1028 was owner early by Bob Turner of Hopkins, MN and has no record until it shows up with Frank K. Spain. Richard
did restoration work on this car. Bob Turner of Hopkins, MN owned #1040 as well. Russ Brownell worked on it. Maybe someone knows if he owned it.
J.B. Nethercutt ended up with it. I have no dates on any of those owners. Ray Wiysel owned #1030 during that time so it can be eliminated.

That leaves us with the car in the article possibly being #1011 if Lares did not buy it directly from Ehlenz. #1028, #1033, or #1040. Any ideas?
Also, if Richard is correct on Znika being an early owner of #1033 then it would seem like he owned a second Tucker since the facts in the article
do not agree.

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[Clem]

The post on March 30, 2010 referred to Tucker 1033 and it included a reference to 1017. It was stated that on September 30, 1948 Tucker 1017 was rebuilt. We are obviously interested in what the "rebuild" consisted of. This will give you enthusiasts that love to dig up history on the cars something to research.
Thanks for any information that is uncovered.

Keith Carpenter

[Larry Clark]

Keith: Your car got a great going-over. This is what the record established by Dan Leabu on September 30, 1948 said about your car (I will duplicate the case for words):

SERIAL #1017, COLOR- GREEN, ENGINE #335-16, TRANSMISSION #Y-1-115 af, KEY #TC-502. THIS CAR WAS COMPLETELY OVER-HAULED AND PLACED IN FIRST-CLASS RUNNING CONDITION. THE OLD TRANSMISSION WAS REPLACED WITH A NEW Y1 AND ELECTRICAL SHIFT-ENGINE VALVES WERE GROUND. ALL OTHER MISCELLANEOUS PARTS SUCH AS BRAKES, WHEELS, ALIGNMENT, GAS TANK, TRIM, BODY, PAINT, ETC. WERE CHECKED AND REPLACEMENTS MADE WERE NECESSARY. (LICENSE #125)

People getting the message were Preston Tucker, Rockelman, Radford, Dulian, McPherson, Kim, Frank and Kern.

I am not handy to a scanner right now Feel free to privately contact me through this web site and I will try to get a scan to you from my office sometime next week.

Larry