Tucker #1046 For Sale - SOLD

[Tom]

I believe Chick Delerenzo has 2 or 3 extra Tucker Motors that are wrapped up in plastic and havent been run if I remember right but he may be worth talking to.

Tom

[Larry Clark]

Nick Jenin is a hero for us Tucker lovers as he collected so many, kept them in great original shape. Richard Jones may know if 1046 was in such bad or warn condition that either conversion or major rebuild back to stock was necessary. My understanding from several Tucker followers now deceased is that the car was not in bad shape but that Jenin simply wanted his daughter to have a car much easier to drive than a stock Tucker- a stock Tucker car is beautiful but not the easiest to drive/handle. Larry

[Preston]

On who owns #18 do the parts that are currently owned
by the one who also owns #27 do they have vend numbers or some
type of body part numbers? I would think they're just used replacement parts for the restoration of #27.
OK - IF- you had the #18 frame... that may have the vend numbers and you where able to find all the body parts and a Tucker motor does that make it a restored #18?
If you had a Frame from ...say...#53 or the convertible that must have a vend number on it somewhere.... if you completed it with original Tucker parts taking it to a 4 door sedan....does it become a orignal Tucker #53?
It has been said that several of the car needed to be completed when the factory closed... If they weren't finished at the factory what is the difference of them being a orignal Tucker and a Tucker pieced together over the years in someones gargage?
I've heard that a gentleman... Carmack? (sorry if I've spelt the name wrong)... heard he has enough parts to complete another car?
does it have a vend number? Wouldn't it be considered a original Tucker?

With #46 I would think it's number #46 no matter what it sits on...
If for example he finds/buys a frame or has a frame built say from Ida
and replaces all the missing parts with NOS pieces or newly made pieces I would consider it a restored #46.

[Larry Clark]

I think to the Tucker "traditionalists" there will always be the Tin Goose and the 50 Tucker '48 cars. Of the latter, there are 46 left (1018, 1023, 1027 and 1042 being considered "lost" to this world). Period. End of discussion.

The above is not "law" but rather a school of thought held by many, including myself. Others think differently (for example, some "purists" rejected 1046 after it was converted). There is no "right" answer.

This said, would I still go to see the supposed Tucker convertible, Tucker 1051, a cobbled new 1026 if this were to happen, etc.? Yep, I would.

Larry

[ehartman13]

The argument is kinda like the "NEW 57 Chevy Bodies". They are titled under the donor frame number, but is it really a 57? Look into this page and here is a quick quote:

http://www.i-go-cars.com/autos/new-1957 ... -unveiled/

Something unique about all of the 1957 Chevy Convertible bodies from CARS Inc. start with an original 1957 Chevy Cowl (which includes the dash, A-piller, and firewall), and then all brand new sheetmetal is added on top of this - including a fully welded floor, fenders, complete doors, top bows, rear deck lid, and front hood). This makes these cars officially “restored” cars with a vehicle identification number from the original 1957 Chevy donor car.

I stand that there will only be the original 51, others can and rightfully claim to be a TUCKER, but there are only the 51 that should be recognized.

[Preston]

I can understand 18, 23, and 42 being lost... but 27?
damaged but not so far gone that it can't be brought back.
With donated parts and all that available today in restoration
I beleive it can be brought back... it has it's original frame, motor
it's just new and old parts, Just as any of the other Tuckers that
are restored...
Look at #10 from what I understand it has damage to the front
would it be considered lost?
And what about the later cars... Where there 50 cars completed
sitting in the factory turn key ready or the later half finished in
different stages bought at auction later finished by the owners....
does #51 count?.... it wasn't completed till the late 80s and it has a fiberglass fender...
And I'm just writing/talking to get conversation on the board.....
I check here everyday... and I can only take so much
“How Much is Tucker Stock Worth” or “Tucker Radio For Sale on Ebay”
I just want to hear from the old timers and see how they feel....
What if someone buys that convertible at auction, it has a vend number of say #53 , it has the Tucker motor, someone completes it using Tucker parts... Is it a Tucker or a kit car.... To me it's a Tucker....

Or the guy restores 27... is still “Lost” or is it restored?...
Carmack has enough to complete a Tucker, don't know if it has a vend number.... say it's completed somday... what is it?
Just something to think about and discuss.....

[Tuckerfan1053]

In one of his Popular Mechanics columns, Jay Leno talks about going to a car show where "all seven out of five" cars of a certain model (I forget which) were going to be there. Meaning that the company only built five cars, but people using parts fabricated another two cars. When it comes to Tuckers, the situation is a little more complicated. Several of the cars weren't completed until after the company closed and there's 1046, which was reworked and is now half Tucker, half Mercury (which I guess would make it a "Tucury" ).

I would say that any car which contains more than 80% original parts, but was built after Preston passed away, should be considered a "constructed Tucker," any built in the years since, with fewer than 80% original parts should be considered replicas. The exceptions being if the parts used all come from the same car which had been fully assembled prior to Preston's death. So, if someone turned 1027 into a fully functioning car again, that should be considered a restoration and not a constructed Tucker or a replica.

[Larry Clark]

I will bite in your interest to continue a discussion, albeit I am not a Tucker old-timer of the era. About 1027, you make an interesting case for it to not be considered "lost" to this world.

Where are the pieces of 1027? The motor was removed from the car by the company well before the auction (not sure if the transmission was- likely it also was). Erza Schlipf began parting out 1027 as soon as he acquired it. The interior was back then put in to 1002. The fenders and bumpers are likely on 1050 (although there is also a contention that the front bumper is on 1049). Many Tucker cars have had more than one engine and/or transmission, a good many replaced by the factory (so it is not like a 1967 GTO where you might be concerned if you did not have the matching numbers 389 engine). The damage to the body from the roll over that Schlipf thought was too much to justify an attempt at restoration might be possible to be repaired with today's better technology and the knowledge that the car could potentially be worth big bucks when completed. Worth considering.

As an aside, I would still go look at what remains of 1027 just to see it.

Larry

[Preston]

So parts of 27 went to maybe #49 and #50 were those cars complete
in the factory... or later after the sale... was 50 ever completed.. looks like
it missing parts in the photo album...
So how many were completed, setting ready to go before the factory closed... anyone know?

[TuckerCar]

Larry, you are completely wrong! The 1967 GTO had a 400. 1966 was the last year for the 389 and the Tri-Power!

Sorry, had to call you on that one. I've owned a couple '67 Goats.

HAHAHA!

I will bite in your interest to continue a discussion, albeit I am not a Tucker old-timer of the era. About 1027, you make an interesting case for it to not be considered "lost" to this world.

Where are the pieces of 1027? The motor was removed from the car by the company well before the auction (not sure if the transmission was- likely it also was). Erza Schlipf began parting out 1027 as soon as he acquired it. The interior was back then put in to 1002. The fenders and bumpers are likely on 1050 (although there is also a contention that the front bumper is on 1049). Many Tucker cars have had more than one engine and/or transmission, a good many replaced by the factory (so it is not like a 1967 GTO where you might be concerned if you did not have the matching numbers 389 engine). The damage to the body from the roll over that Schlipf thought was too much to justify an attempt at restoration might be possible to be repaired with today's better technology and the knowledge that the car could potentially be worth big bucks when completed. Worth considering.

As an aside, I would still go look at what remains of 1027 just to see it.

Larry

[Larry Clark]

Got me you did. I should have kept to Mustangs since I have owned a bunch, including a 1968 GT fastback with a 390 (which could get smoked by a 1967 goat) and my present week-end toy, a Cobra convertible. My favorite car of this era was the AMX 390 (given I could not afford the really big horsepower cars).

Larry

[TUCKER]

Where in California Is the owner of 1047? I live in California and will like to help the new owner restore the car for nothing in exchange.

[TUCKER]

sorry, I ment 1046

[tucker1046]

Sorry I've been meaning to post this for a while.

I purchased 1046 from the previous owner late in 2007 on eBay as most of you know. It's been a dream of mine to own a Tucker and since i've purchased the car i've taken it to a few car shows in the Los Angeles area (driving it to each show).

Noting that the car is not as it should be, factory original, in January 2008 the car began a complete restoration to bring it back to its original condition. Working with Mark Lieberman on the project has been an absolute blast thus far. We've been able to collect most original parts that the car was missing, and thanks to Mark we've decided to undertake what i believe to be a truly rare project. Not only will the Tucker be returned to factory, engine in the back, original tucker engine, redoing just about everything ground up including interior and exterior, but as well we are restoring all of the parts that the body has been sitting on for the past 50 or 60 years into a drivable chassis. The reason being, the frame, engine and current interior are just as much a part of this cars history, so we decided to bring both back to life as 2 separate display pieces. Mark anticipates the restoration to take between 3-5 years, so keep an eye out we'll both be updating the club with our progress.

If anyone does have ORIGINAL parts please let me know. I'm looking to put this car on tour once complete and as much history as you have or can share with me is greatly appreicated.

I look forward to participating in future tucker events and getting to meet as many of you as possible.

Matt

[MD]

Matt,

Thanks for posting, and best of luck with the project! It looks like #1046 is in good hands and well on the way to making history. Please keep us updated as you make progress... Can't wait to see the finished product!

Martyn