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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby MD » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:59 am

#1013 was used very prominently in the movie... The night-time chase scene from the factory to the police station with Jeff Bridges at the wheel. The car also suffered some damage during filming :cry:
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Tucker Fan 48 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:25 pm

MD wrote: The car also suffered some damage during filming :cry:


Hopefully they got Al Reinerts attorney to help them out :wink:
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby moparknighthawk » Sat May 22, 2010 8:59 pm

I went to the Swigert Museum last year and got to see the Tin Goose as well as the other Tucker there, up close too. It was amazing the small differences between the two Tuckers. :)
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby TuckerHCL » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:56 pm

Tucker Fan 48 wrote:Richard,

Once again your information was quite helpful in tracking down another piece of the long trail of Tucker owners.
With your help I found that Ed Nowak did own Ed’s Transmission Service at 41524 Griswold Road in Elyria, OH. He
ran the business and his brother Anthony became a partner for many years. Ed lived in nearby Amherst OH. His shop
was originally in Lorain OH at 1500 Ashland. Ed also had an interest in a auto wrecking company in Elyria.

Any idea how Ed came to own #1020, Who, what, where, when, and how?


From my research I found that Edward Nowak of Ed’s Transmission Service, Elyria, OH purhcased car #1020 for $2,750.00 on March 30, 1963 at the estate auction of William Monroe Jones
Jones Sales and Service, Cleveland St., Elyria, OH.

I do not know when Wm. Jones purchased the car but the auctionieer said he had "purchased it years ago on a lark." The engine was out of the car but sold with it when Nowark purchased it it.

The factory sold #1020 to Tucker Ohio, Inc - Cleveland on 7-21-48

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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Tucker Fan 48 » Sat Jun 26, 2010 6:34 pm

The information was very helpful. What is known about Tucker Ohio, Inc. of Cleveland? I find nothing in Ohio state records.
Who owned it? Where were they located? Any other information.

I did find Charles W. Merriman of 800 5th St SW, Canton, Ohio formed TUCKER ALLIANCE MOTOR CO. on 5/21/47 in Alliance OH.
It was changed to ALLIANCE TUCKER MOTOR CO. on 10/13/48 and dissolved on 4/12/49.

William M. Jones (b. 1912, d. 2/14/63) spent his life in Elyria OH. He worked in an Auto Upholstery shop in his early years.

It appears #1020 didn't travel much as it was in Cleveland, then traveled, (if there were no other owners,) 23 miles to Mr.
Jones in Elyria. Ed Nowak's shop on Griswold Road was only a couple miles away. John Lemmo lived just 30 miles away in
Peninsula OH.

I guess #1020 has given up on staying close to home with going to Jerry Moore and now it's current owner.
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Phantomrig » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:36 pm

A while back I looked into the records of fromer businesses in Cleveland at one of the Cleveland public librarys and was unable to find anything about Tucker Ohio Inc of Cleveland. is it possible that it was not actually in Cleveland and instead in a suburb. if anybody can come up with an address of where it was and I can possibly get more info atleast Ill try.
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Natalie » Mon Jun 28, 2010 9:30 am

Phantomrig wrote:My father was a freind of the Heinrichs family and he always told me that they only ever owned the Blue one(1013) so i doubt that they ever owned 1020.


I saw 1013 a few weeks ago and was wondering exactly what color it is...I know it was originally Grey (Silver)/500. Pat referred to it as above ("the blue one"), but it doesn't look as blue as I've seen photos of cars labeled "Waltz Blue." She also said any restoration that was done to it was done prior to it being in her possession, so I've no clue as to when it may have been painted nor the process. I know what I saw -- kind of a bluish silver. Stunningly beautiful, but again, not as deep a blue as, say, 1019 looks in the photo on Wikipedia. But cameras and computer screens (and, I suppose, the folks doing the painting) can be tricky.

Note, the only other Tuckers I've seen in person were Maroon and Black -- so I've no basis with which to compare Waltz Blue or Grey/Silver other than photos.

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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby TuckerHCL » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:20 am

Nat

#1013 was restored before the Swigart Museum acquired it in 1998. My guess would be when the Heinrichs owned the car but I have nothing to base that one.

The factory original color is listed as 500 - Grey on Coproration Documents but the current color appears more of a sliver with blue tint rather than Waltz Blue.

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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Tucker Fan 48 » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:37 am

Nat,

The older photos of the car all seem to have a more silver/blue color to them. Maybe Richard Jones
or someone else has knowledge of the car being restored at one point. It has had relatively few owners
and the Heinrichs family had it for nearly 30 years.

It's present color of grey/silver looks very close to what I see in photos of #1022, #1029, #1032. The
color on #1019 looks to be close to a Waltz Blue. The best examples of Waltz Blue are #1034, #1043,
& #1047. There are several blue cars that have their own shade of blue like #1007, #1014, and #1045.

There are several different shades of green as well. The best example of the green is #1017. The paint
color on #1038 is a little darker than the original color.
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Natalie » Mon Jun 28, 2010 10:51 am

Thanks for the info Jay and Tucker Fan 48. Yeah, according to a friend and Corvette expert, the current color of 1013 looks (again, from my pics) like a GM color called Steel Blue Metallic that was only used on 'Vettes for one year (1991).
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby TuckerHCL » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:00 am

Nat

I can tell you that shades of colors were not consistant on the cars from the factory.

Both #1006 and 1017 were matched to original green paint found and both are slightly different. Then there is #1015 currently been restored and has original green paint found in several untouched areas. Its green is much closer to #1038 than it is 1006 or 1017...

It is like most things on the Tucker. These were pilot production cars and several changes were made along the way from car to car.

#1013 does not appear to be a close match to the Waltz Blue typically seen so I suspect it was just something the owners liked.

Time to get back to work - (OH, darn... its lunchtime already)!

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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby cicero » Mon Jun 28, 2010 11:06 am

So what is going on with 1015? That is the one that used to be in Stone Mountain Ga. It was more of an olive drab shade of green than the other ones I have seen but overall the car was in pretty good shape. I got to sit in it once.
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby TuckerCar » Tue Jun 29, 2010 6:32 am

I want to say I remember reading somewhere that Tucker 1013 was painted something weird like Toyota Blue. Perhaps it wasn't Toyota but they were not trying to duplicate Waltz Blue at the time - they knew it was a 'custom' color. I'll have to dig up where I read that...
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Re: Tin Goose Question

Postby Phantomrig » Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:12 pm

Natalie wrote:
Phantomrig wrote:My father was a freind of the Heinrichs family and he always told me that they only ever owned the Blue one(1013) so i doubt that they ever owned 1020.


I saw 1013 a few weeks ago and was wondering exactly what color it is...I know it was originally Grey (Silver)/500. Pat referred to it as above ("the blue one"), but it doesn't look as blue as I've seen photos of cars labeled "Waltz Blue." She also said any restoration that was done to it was done prior to it being in her possession, so I've no clue as to when it may have been painted nor the process. I know what I saw -- kind of a bluish silver. Stunningly beautiful, but again, not as deep a blue as, say, 1019 looks in the photo on Wikipedia. But cameras and computer screens (and, I suppose, the folks doing the painting) can be tricky.

Note, the only other Tuckers I've seen in person were Maroon and Black -- so I've no basis with which to compare Waltz Blue or Grey/Silver other than photos.

Thanks!



In my fathers collection of photos there is an entire album that is only pics of 1013 that were all talken in the late 70's or early 80's. when i find them I will scan and post them. but you are correct Natalie as 1013 is more of a grey car than Blue but it is said to be Waltz Blue.
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